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      NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

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      Reply #22977: Aug 22, 2017 04:54:05 pm
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      Should they force Klopp to have multiple options or should they just sign players that they like who are in similar positions to that which Klopp wanted? I really am curious to hear what the solution in your opinion is.

      Buy Klopp who  he wants, don't  go issuing apologies, that would be a start. As for Keita...we offered no where near what he's likely worth. He's a 100m player all day long at current prices.

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      Reply #22978: Aug 22, 2017 08:10:33 pm
      Was going to put this in 'General Transfer Rumours' saying as it's quiet and all but it will fit here too. A bit of fun - who do you reckon said this on transfers?

      "I want to know why we are doing what we are doing on the pitch and with regard to player acquisition. I wouldn’t be doing my job in allocating resources if I wasn’t able to make sense of the individual steps we are taking within the context of our overall philosophy."





      Hmm tough one Bubbs but if I were to hazard a guess I'd probably go for Aristotle Henry?

      Would I be correct?

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      Reply #22979: Aug 22, 2017 09:15:36 pm
      I'll play too...

      From 2011 interview..  :o

      Questioner:

      Have you achieved your goals in terms of recruitment and sales this summer? Has the high expenditure of this window been a one-off investment to get you up to speed?

      JWH..

      "For a number of years players of quality were being sold and players of lesser quality were being purchased. The club wasn’t being run by people with the kind of discipline it takes to be successful over the long-term. It’s odd to be criticised by some who think we are over-spending".

       :roll:
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      Reply #22980: Aug 23, 2017 09:45:15 pm
      Right we're in. Now go sign some frickin players and a new contract for Emre whilst your at it. Chop Chop.
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      Reply #22981: Aug 25, 2017 09:32:02 am
      Right we're in. Now go sign some frickin players and a new contract for Emre whilst your at it. Chop Chop.

      As if that is going to happen.  :mad:

      We may sign some £20m potential but no one will be more than £35m we paid for Salah. Guaranteed.
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      Reply #22982: Aug 25, 2017 01:28:51 pm
      As if that is going to happen.  :mad:

      We may sign some £20m potential but no one will be more than £35m we paid for Salah. Guaranteed.

      Why are you so obsessed with price?
      Especially in a very inflated market.

      Surely it's about the player being the best fit, which doesn't mean the most expensive player.
      Like Robertson for example.
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      Reply #22983: Aug 28, 2017 03:27:36 pm
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      Reply #22984: Aug 28, 2017 03:43:25 pm
      Well I tell you what. After the Keita news, if we get Lemar and Van Dyke in over the next twleve months, no one will have a critical leg to stand on when it comes to accusations of lack of ambition.
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      Reply #22985: Aug 28, 2017 03:45:31 pm
      Well I tell you what. After the Keita news, if we get Lemar and Van Dyke in over the next twleve months, no one will have a critical leg to stand on when it comes to accusations of lack of ambition.

      12months?. I want them both in the next 48hrs ;D
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      Reply #22986: Aug 28, 2017 03:47:11 pm
      Well I tell you what. After the Keita news, if we get Lemar and Van Dyke in over the next twleve months, no one will have a critical leg to stand on when it comes to accusations of lack of ambition.

      I don't think there's been a lack of ambition.

      A lack of cohesion, maybe some naivety. maybe a lack of trust in a manager, but perhaps the biggest problem imo has been the lack of continuity in managerial plans, but with Klopp on a long term contract and probably very sure of his plans and how he wants to get there, we see a big change.
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      Reply #22987: Aug 28, 2017 03:49:13 pm
      I don't think there's been a lack of ambition.

      A lack of cohesion, maybe some naivety. maybe a lack of trust in a manager, but perhaps the biggest problem imo has been the lack of continuity in managerial plans, but with Klopp on a long term contract and probably very sure of his plans and how he wants to get there, we see a big change.

      I think there has been a lack of ambition but I also think that they've been so utterly convinced by Klopp's vision for the club, and what everyone else around us is doing, that they've decided that the time is now or never to invest. Nonetheless, they deserve no criticism if they get these three in.
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      Reply #22988: Aug 28, 2017 03:59:15 pm
      Imagine paying over £50m for a transfer and not even getting him for another season.

      Tight arses.

      In other news, RBL are essentially paying £25m or so for a season long loan :D
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      Reply #22989: Aug 28, 2017 04:15:47 pm
      Know what I did first game of the season against Watford? Went on my walk and missed the first half. Couldn't be bothered because they've sucked the love of the beautiful game out of me. If anyone knew me they'd know that's unthinkable, but I keep thinking what's the point in getting my hopes up when we're so embarrassingly incompetent in the transfer window? Hopes were dashed too many times.

      But if they do sign Keita, Lemar,  and/or keep Couts and/or buy VvD, they'll definitely reignite my love of football. We're a long way from moving in together again, but they can have my mobile number and we'll see how things go from there.


      Fair enough John?

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      Reply #22990: Aug 28, 2017 05:31:16 pm
      In other news, RBL are essentially paying £25m or so for a season long loan :D
      That's because they see value in having a class player on the pitch against money in the bank.

      It simple comes down to wanting your team to have the best possible chances
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      Reply #22991: Aug 28, 2017 08:27:47 pm
      Know what I did first game of the season against Watford? Went on my walk and missed the first half. Couldn't be bothered because they've sucked the love of the beautiful game out of me. If anyone knew me they'd know that's unthinkable, but I keep thinking what's the point in getting my hopes up when we're so embarrassingly incompetent in the transfer window? Hopes were dashed too many times.

      But if they do sign Keita, Lemar,  and/or keep Couts and/or buy VvD, they'll definitely reignite my love of football. We're a long way from moving in together again, but they can have my mobile number and we'll see how things go from there.


      Fair enough John?



      Sounds like this was the offer John needed, he's working on it mate, he's working on it.
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      Reply #22992: Aug 28, 2017 09:07:19 pm
      The next few days will tell a story. My fingers, arms, and legs are all crossed that this could finally be the season whether on field success has become a priority.
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      Reply #22993: Aug 28, 2017 10:16:12 pm
      The next few days will tell a story. My fingers, arms, and legs are all crossed that this could finally be the season whether on field success has become a priority.

      Well I certainly think it is clear now that they are trying. Though they may not be great at it yet it does appear that FSG and the boys believe in Klopps message and are willing to do their part. The Keita deal shows that they can even adept their plans for the betterment of the club? The deal wasn't perfect, we would love to have him in this year. However, they didn't give up and made the best deal they possibly could. That has to be encouraging. Like you said, the next few days are crucial and will tell a lot. But today went a long way at showing at least one guy that they care and are adaptable.
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      Reply #22994: Aug 28, 2017 10:40:30 pm
      I am sure I'm not alone in hoping I have to reappraise my thoughts about JWH&Co,
      I am hoping also it was worth waiting for.
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      Reply #22995: Aug 28, 2017 10:41:06 pm
      So...

      Who wants to say signing Keita is a PR spin? Because a small selection of you thought we bid £65million as a F***ing PR spin to fool the fans you F***ing dumb asses! Honestly, how stupid do you look now.

      Let me be clear here. This is NOT aimed at the people who think FSG could do more, far from it, I respect that.

      This is aimed at the people who watch too much House of Cards and think that everything is shady and anyone in a suit is evil. If you uttered the term 'PR Spin' in relation to Keita at any stage, and thought we'd spend months of time and resources going after a player to 'make it look like we're going to do business' to 'keep the fans happy'... Whilst, paradoxically at the same time saying the owners don't care about the fans... wobble your F***ing head you dunce.

      That is aimed at those 'PR Spin' people, and those alone. Those saying 'I'm not sure if we'll sign him' or 'I'm not confident FSG can pull this off' cool, I get it, a logical and sound argument... PR Spin conspiracy theorists :lmao: Remember; the earth is not flat, the government are not spraying chem trails to hypnotise you and FSG aren't trying to 'trick you', truth is they probably don't care enough about you to trick you in the first place so can we give that whole 'PR Spin' line a F***ing rest now.
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      Reply #22996: Aug 28, 2017 11:09:54 pm
      So...

      Who wants to say signing Keita is a PR spin? Because a small selection of you thought we bid £65million as a f**king PR spin to fool the fans you f**king dumb asses! Honestly, how stupid do you look now.

      Let me be clear here. This is NOT aimed at the people who think FSG could do more, far from it, I respect that.

      This is aimed at the people who watch too much House of Cards and think that everything is shady and anyone in a suit is evil. If you uttered the term 'PR Spin' in relation to Keita at any stage, and thought we'd spend months of time and resources going after a player to 'make it look like we're going to do business' to 'keep the fans happy'... Whilst, paradoxically at the same time saying the owners don't care about the fans... wobble your f**king head you dunce.

      That is aimed at those 'PR Spin' people, and those alone. Those saying 'I'm not sure if we'll sign him' or 'I'm not confident FSG can pull this off' cool, I get it, a logical and sound argument... PR Spin conspiracy theorists :lmao: Remember; the earth is not flat, the government are not spraying chem trails to hypnotise you and FSG aren't trying to 'trick you', truth is they probably don't care enough about you to trick you in the first place so can we give that whole 'PR Spin' line a f**king rest now.

      This is just all PR spin to detract from the absolute fact that Henderson was the weakest of our midfielders yesterday. Good game but a 7/10 doesn't hold much water to the fireballs that Gini and Emre were throwing! :D

      Well at least you enjoyed that post. FWIW they'll still counter with the fact that he isn't signed now, we're absolutely going to sell Coutinho, either this window or next, 100% without any proof whatsoever that will be argued as fact. Also Lemar, Shemar, more smoke and mirrors.

      If VvD signs tomorrow there will be few places to hide, but then again, we're just spending the Coutinho money! It's all too easy.

      Frankly if FSG deliver Lemar/VvD/Keita then I'll happily tone down my dislike of these guys, they'll have won me over a good way. Klopp was the first step, the second was backing him and if those 3 arrive, or even 2 with a real effort for the 3rd I could cope (on top of Salah/Robbo/Solanke).
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      Reply #22997: Aug 28, 2017 11:16:43 pm
      Well at least you enjoyed that post. FWIW they'll still counter with the fact that he isn't signed now, we're absolutely going to sell Coutinho, either this window or next, 100%

      Don't really care to much about net spend as much as I care about getting proper players in to fill the void...let's face it players come and they go ...it's what they are being replaced with that matters the most.

      Keeping Coutinho this season but having his replacement already signed is too me a great sign of a club doing things the right way and not panic buying like we have in the past.

      I don't give any credit to FSG for this but all to the manger who again does not do sub-standard players ..the fact that the ownership appear to let him do what he wants is all I care about.
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      Reply #22998: Aug 28, 2017 11:18:24 pm
      I don't give any credit to FSG for this but all to the manger who again does not do sub-standard players ..the fact that the ownership appear to let him do what he wants is all I care about.

      Amen.
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      Reply #22999: Aug 28, 2017 11:23:29 pm
      Don't really care to much about net spend as much as I care about getting proper players in to fill the void...let's face it players come and they go ...it's what they are being replaced with that matters the most.

      Keeping Coutinho this season but having his replacement already signed is too me a great sign of a club doing things the right way and not panic buying like we have in the past.

      I don't give any credit to FSG for this but all to the manger who again does not do sub-standard players ..the fact that the ownership appear to let him do what he wants is all I care about.

      That's all we can ask of them. Just listen to Klopp and do what he wants. Very good post mate.

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