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      Daniel Sturridge (Contract Expired)

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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4301: Sep 18, 2017 06:38:46 am
      I thought it right to play Daniel in that game.

      Just needs to hit the back of the net once and they will start flying in for him.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4302: Sep 18, 2017 07:43:19 am
      Would play him against Leicester
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4303: Sep 23, 2017 11:43:00 pm
      Is looking like a super sub for us.

      Unfortunately for him what terrified defenders was his pace which unfortunately is gone, so the best time to bring him on is against tiring legs.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4304: Sep 23, 2017 11:46:48 pm
      Looked good when he came on, got an assist for what should have been a game killing goal
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4305: Sep 23, 2017 11:48:22 pm
      I play him against Newcastle and utd game he may not have pace as before he still class player get goal out nothing
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4306: Sep 23, 2017 11:50:29 pm
      I play him against Newcastle and utd game he may not have pace as before he still class player get goal out nothing

      How many has he got out of nothing so far?

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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4307: Sep 24, 2017 12:37:30 am
      Is looking like a super sub for us.

      Unfortunately for him what terrified defenders was his pace which unfortunately is gone, so the best time to bring him on is against tiring legs.

      Fully agree.

      Just to start off with, Danny is a quality player and I'm very happy that he's still at the club. A fit Danny is a great option to have in the squad. What I've always admired about him is the power with which he gets shots away when almost standing still. 

      Just thought that some of the comments in the match thread were a bit over the top. It was indeed a good performance and he looks sharp, but the circumstances in which he was able to come in the game were very favourable. It was a very open game, Leicester were chasing a goal and were committing a lot of players forward, their defenders were ran to pieces in the first hour and he had lots of space and time on the ball. Still lost possession a few times though when his dribbles didn't work out, but I'll put that down to being 'rusty'.

      I have nothing against 'out and out strikers', Danny is even a bit of hybrid for me as he likes to drop deep too. The only worry I have with us playing one is that it needs a shift in system and that these strikers tend to take in positions in and around the box that Mane and Salah like to use. An 'out and out' striker would easily have 20+ goals with our creative players, but I think we'd see a remarkable drop in goals for both Mane and Salah in that case.

      I just really like us being a threat from all over the pitch.
      « Last Edit: Sep 24, 2017 01:48:43 am by Danzel »
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4308: Sep 24, 2017 12:43:57 am
      I think Danny isn't the player he was two or three seasons ago, the injuries have taken their toll. I remain convinced though that from somewhere we are going to have to find a striker who offers a genuine goal threat. Whether we can coach it into Bobby or whether we have to go find someone else I don't either know or care, but top teams have centre forwards who score heavily.

      My feeling with Sturridge is that if he played regularly two things would happen.

      1. He would score far more goals than Bobby.
      2. He'd last about three games before he got injured again.

      The answer IMHO is find some more creativity from midfield, that way you don't need your centre forward to spend so much time and effort trying to unlock the door for others (if indeed that's what Bobby brings to it). As it is though having a centre forward who runs around a lot is well and good, but we need someone who scores more regularly, IMHO obviously. 
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4309: Sep 24, 2017 01:12:12 am
      He looked sharp. Just waiting for the floodgates to open for him. Come on Danny.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4310: Sep 24, 2017 01:18:59 am
      He looked sharp. Just waiting for the floodgates to open for him. Come on Danny.

      Underrated passer of the ball as well is Danny I think.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4311: Sep 24, 2017 01:24:22 am
      I think Danny isn't the player he was two or three seasons ago, the injuries have taken their toll. I remain convinced though that from somewhere we are going to have to find a striker who offers a genuine goal threat. Whether we can coach it into Bobby or whether we have to go find someone else I don't either know or care, but top teams have centre forwards who score heavily.

      My feeling with Sturridge is that if he played regularly two things would happen.

      1. He would score far more goals than Bobby.
      2. He'd last about three games before he got injured again.

      The answer IMHO is find some more creativity from midfield, that way you don't need your centre forward to spend so much time and effort trying to unlock the door for others (if indeed that's what Bobby brings to it). As it is though having a centre forward who runs around a lot is well and good, but we need someone who scores more regularly, IMHO obviously.

      Without wanting to turn the Sturridge thread, into a Firmino thread, I just think that the misconception a lot of people have is that because Firmino plays central, he's supposed to be our main goalscorer and biggest goal threat. That's just not his job. If people are going to keep judging him on the 'goals scored' statistic, he'll never be good enough in their eyes.

      There's a reason he's called a 'false 9'. He's not the main goal threat, he is more of a playmaker for our wide forwards. Mane and Salah are the two goal threats and our main 'forwards'. If both stay healthy, they'll both come very close to scoring the 20 goals everyone keeps mentioning. If Firmino ships in between 10-15 (depending on penalty duties) of his own, I'd call that a very, very productive front three.

      The only false 9 that was as clinical as the Kanes, Agueros and Sturridges of this world that I know of would be Messi. Bit hard to compare the two. Think about Spain if you really want to compare it and look how they used Fabregas as their false 9. Was he a clinical striker? He wasn't he was a creator, just like Firmino is ours. His chances created / assist numbers are phenomenal and that's what we need in our system. Would a fit Sturridge bang in 20 in a season for us? Easily. Would Mane and Salah still be as productive? Not likely.
      « Last Edit: Sep 24, 2017 01:46:57 am by Danzel »
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4312: Sep 24, 2017 01:31:14 am
      Fully agree.

      Just to start off with, Danny is a quality player and I'm very happy that he's still at the club. A fit Danny is a great option to have in the squad. What I've always admired about him is the power with which he gets shots away when almost standing still. 

      Just thought that some of the comments in the match thread were a bit over the top. It was indeed a good performance and he looks sharp, but the circumstances in which he was able to come in the game were very favourable. It was a very open game, Leicester were chasing a goal and were committing a lot of players forward, their defenders were ran to pieces in the first hour and he had lots of space and time on the ball. Still lost possession a few times though when his dribbles didn't work out, but I'll put that down to being 'rusty'.

      I have nothing against 'out and out strikers', Danny is even a bit of hybrid for me as he likes to drop deep too. The only worry I have with us playing one is that it needs a shift in system and that these strikers tend to take in positions in and around the box that Mane and Salah like to use. An 'out and out' striker would easily have 20+ goals with our creative players, but I think we'd see a remarkable drop in in goals for both Mane and Salah in that case.

      I just really like us being a threat from all over the pitch.


      Both posts absolutely spot on Danzel.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4313: Sep 24, 2017 02:12:17 am
      Did more in 25 minutes than Firmino did in 65 mins today.

      Looked much more threatening and direct when he came on.

      Nice assist to.

      Well in Danny, good performance.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4314: Sep 24, 2017 05:35:01 am
      Made a difference when he came on unlucky not to score one. Firmino was w*nk and should have been hooked for Dan at half time.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4315: Sep 24, 2017 08:17:06 am
      Yes Firmino was poor yesterday and Studge did well when he came on. Good to see.

      Over the past 18 months he has looked far better as a 30 minute sub than starter and he seems to be available more often because of it.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4316: Sep 24, 2017 08:46:10 am
      Danny the Super sub, good assist, to lay on Henderson's goal.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4317: Sep 24, 2017 10:19:01 am
      I think Danny isn't the player he was two or three seasons ago, the injuries have taken their toll. I remain convinced though that from somewhere we are going to have to find a striker who offers a genuine goal threat. Whether we can coach it into Bobby or whether we have to go find someone else I don't either know or care, but top teams have centre forwards who score heavily.

      My feeling with Sturridge is that if he played regularly two things would happen.

      1. He would score far more goals than Bobby.
      2. He'd last about three games before he got injured again.

      The answer IMHO is find some more creativity from midfield, that way you don't need your centre forward to spend so much time and effort trying to unlock the door for others (if indeed that's what Bobby brings to it). As it is though having a centre forward who runs around a lot is well and good, but we need someone who scores more regularly, IMHO obviously.

      Sounds like you've practically given up on him mate, what with his injuries and all that. Fair enough, most have I suppose and I was very tempted to hold my hands up to that I must admit, but...

      I'm going on what Klopp has said by and large (to BS or not to BS that is the question), re both Danny's fitness and his importance to the team this season.

      He looks stockier to me and he has been working hard by all accounts on his fitness, and he recently completed his first 90 minutes in over 16 months. I'm hopeful that he is stronger now and is gearing up nicely for the season. There's no doubt he'll be needed much more than what we've seen already this season. Law of averages will tell you that at some point he's going to get a run in the side, flogging Firmino throughout the season isn't, or shouldn't happen with such a heavy fixture list.

      I totally agree about the need for a goalscorer up front and if Danny does disappoint on the fitness front this season then I think Klopp would be a fool not to bring in another striker next season.

      Mind you, if you read the new en vogue theory justifying why Sturridge shouldn't be in the team, then Klopp won't go out next season or thereafter and look for a new goalscorer. As apparently, a goalscorer through the middle will stop Mane and Salah from scoring goals. I have to laugh. The lengths people will go to in order to defend a player who doesn't score a lot of goals from such a key position, in so that it enables Mane & Salah to score more does give me a chuckle. Where in the world of footballing practice does it mean by having an out and out goalscorer in the team means that other players won't be able to chip in with their fair share of goals?
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4318: Sep 24, 2017 10:59:08 am
      Yep, total bollocks it is mate but I play along in the interests of harmony.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4319: Sep 24, 2017 12:15:28 pm
      It's a good problem to have, but it's a shame our forwards are so good, I'm desperate to see him in the starting eleven... he has flair and can get a good shot away from anywhere in and around the box even from a standing position.... but, apart from yesterday, Bobby has been fantastic so you can't replace him... for now I guess 30 minute super sub is what's best.
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4320: Sep 24, 2017 02:17:13 pm
      I think he cause Newcastle and utd more problems then firmano in attack that reason l start him
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4321: Sep 24, 2017 02:50:13 pm
      The last appearance of Sturridge against Leicester look really promising for me, yes I means his football game not his hair cut ;D. Except his two occasions unforced error/poor decision is overall game is impressive. At this moment I hope he can keeping fit and start scoring goals (as everyone in this world know hes capable to do).

      I'm a bit surprise Danny still with us this season as I think at near the end of last season he's to leave definitely, no one come for him perhaps ;D, anyway I'm wrong about that one.

      Wishes the injuries away from you forever Danny and I'm waiting to see what you can do this season.     
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4322: Sep 25, 2017 06:48:51 pm
      If he gets a start tomorrow night, needs to get on the scoresheet.
      There's an ultimatum for you!
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      Re: Daniel Sturridge Player Thread
      Reply #4323: Sep 25, 2017 08:01:15 pm
      If he gets a start tomorrow night, needs to get on the scoresheet.
      There's an ultimatum for you!

      See I think he fits better as a sub. I just rather see him subbed in with 30 to play rather than 12-6 ;D. I would love to see him and Bobby swap off tomorrow around the 6o minute mark tomorrow and than him to put one in the back of the net from a Robo cross in the 61 minute.

      (I can dream right?)

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