But that's how they set up, defensive first, to keep solid because that's the best way of getting a result...
All managers have a different approach to the game, Klopp's is front foot and entertaining, that's simply how he sees the game, I for one enjoy it, football should be entertaining. But don't think he can't go the other way, you only need to look at last seasons run in.
3-0 Boro
4-0 West Ham
0-0 Saints
1-0 Watford
2-1 Palace
1-0 WBA
2-1 Stoke

2 goals conceded in the last 7
In fact 11 conceded in the last 14
So he can do it, so don't pretend he can't, take Watford last season, two different set ups against the same side, one led to a 6-1 win, the other a 1-0 win. I bet you enjoyed watching the 6-1 more?

Players have to take personal responsibility though, don't you think Klopp will be pulling his hair out and wondering what the f**k at professional players not tracking runs or being aware of defensive responsibility within a zonal formation  (Firmino first goal) or players getting pulled out of position and then rashly jumping in (Moreno second goal) or players not being able to head a ball when they get to it first (Gini third goal)
Managers have used zonal marking for years, very good ones from Sachi to Rafa, so let's not just pretend it's something new and won't ever work... It does work and had the players on the first and third goals done their jobs we don't concede. I bet Klopp is as mad as you or me about that.

The bottom feeders of the league, that's all they have... We don't, nor do we have a manager who sees the game like that, you have to enjoy that or in the least accept it as that's how our manager sees the game... We knew that before we got him, I don't expect people to change what's made them successful just because all us 'experts' think they're getting it wrong

 

Jesus H. Corbett, ya might wanna you may wish to avoid the Hoffenheim prematch thread,2 there are two mistakes in the opening post there. (Remember after punctuation it's grammatically correct to leave a space) Spell check king Spell checking on a f**king footy forum.

Klopp is harsh on Sakho, why not apply the same treatment on these consistently underperformed players? I fail to understand.

I have no problem with the stance in principle, in practice it's harming the club. We can't offload him and we haven't signed anyone better and at the very least he's better than Klavan and more experienced than Gomez. Many would even argue he's the best defender we have at the club right now. Until we can offload him or sign someone better, from a purely practical standpoint he should be reintegrated into the squad. To do otherwise is to cut our nose off to spite our face.

I guess you're right. Klopp's now got the rope. Let's hope he doesn't hang himself with it.

Klavan is the most expendible for me.

Well if he wants to be consistent, Coutinho should get the same treatment (or worse) since he's causing a considerable disruption with his transfer malarkey.

Well if he wants to be consistent, Coutinho should get the same treatment (or worse) since he's causing a considerable disruption with his transfer malarkey.

Reporter: "Mr. Klopp, do you remember your first time? (About the first time in CL).

Klopp (Perplex but with a grin): "Well do you? Of course I remember it, but normally I am not used to speak about my first time in public, but I hope that tomorrow we will perform better then I did at that time"

Speaking for myself I think we have the best manager out there, some people should stop moaning and criticising every little thing he does or does not do, I know it's common place to do just that in this day of internet fame but just let him and his team get on with the job and get behind them. He knows more about football, formations, systems and how to bring success than all of us put together. Be careful what you wish for.

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