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      Re: Thomas Lemar (Monaco)
      Reply #667: Aug 31, 2017 10:26:32 pm
      :lmao:
      Had to plus for that.

      That's a f**king beauty and gave me a proper giggle.  :laugh:

      Can you PLEASE change your name to Trigger?


      Or Dave 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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      Re: Thomas Lemar (Monaco)
      Reply #668: Aug 31, 2017 10:26:46 pm
      I mean this in a nice way mate.
      Stop copying and pasting and pretending you know sh*t you don't.

      Stick to sh*t you know, and everyone will have better conversations with you.
      I admit being wrong about height, judging from TV is probably not a good thing to do... but from whoscored doesn't get it right either, can you go and let them know too?

      Lemar

      Taking set-pieces Very Strong
      Dribbling Strong
      Direct free-kicks Strong
      Key passes Strong
      Crossing Strong
      Holding on to the ball Strong
      Passing Strong
      Long shots Strong

      No weaknesses

      Coutinho

      Long shots Very Strong
      Through balls Very Strong
      Key passes Strong
      Dribbling Strong
      Passing Strong
      Taking set-pieces Strong
      Tackling Strong

      Finishing Weak

      Aerial Duels Weak

      Whoscored gets it wrong too... highlighted in Bold font.
      Lesson here is we all make mistakes.
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      Re: Thomas Lemar (Monaco)
      Reply #669: Aug 31, 2017 10:27:33 pm

       :lmao: :lmao:

      FFS I'd only just stopped laughing at Rib and you set me off again  :laugh:
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      Re: Thomas Lemar (Monaco)
      Reply #670: Aug 31, 2017 10:28:28 pm
      I admit being wrong about height, judging from TV is probably not a good thing to do... but from whoscored

      Lemar

      Taking set-pieces Very Strong
      Dribbling Strong
      Direct free-kicks Strong
      Key passes Strong
      Crossing Strong
      Holding on to the ball Strong
      Passing Strong
      Long shots Strong

      No weaknesses

      Coutinho

      Long shots Very Strong
      Through balls Very Strong
      Key passes Strong
      Dribbling Strong
      Passing Strong
      Taking set-pieces Strong
      Tackling Strong

      Finishing Weak

      Aerial Duels Weak

      Whoscored gets it wrong too... highlighted in Bold font.
      Lesson here is we all make mistakes, it doesn't mean we are chatting **** as you call it.

      OK mate, you keep copy and pasting, and I'll keep swerving you.
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      Reply #671: Aug 31, 2017 10:29:38 pm
      No doubt Lemar is a talent but £90M really..............that's not the market FSG operate in unfortunately.

      You are right, but it's frustrating to see us willing to pay 70-75m for him, but then falter at a measly (football terms) 15-20m, and when you look at our net spend...
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      Re: Thomas Lemar (Monaco)
      Reply #672: Aug 31, 2017 10:31:48 pm
      Yes I believe we did and by all accounts the player preferred to come to us rather than Arse but once the price went up to £90M the club decided that was too much.

      Fair enough you got to have a limit and personally I'm all for paying a bit extra but £90M for a unproven youngster!

      Too much risk for us without owners with mega bucks.




      Thing is, he looked good in Champion's League playing alongside Mbappe....and look what he's worth/going for. So to say Lemar is a little more than half that...doesn't really sound so crazy.
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      Reply #673: Aug 31, 2017 10:32:26 pm
      You are right, but it's frustrating to see us willing to pay 70-75m for him, but then falter at a measly (football terms) 15-20m, and when you look at our net spend...

      They probably wouldn't raise that though and got cold feet cause they were trying to measure him on tv against someone else not on the same screen

      Scouting report
      Height : 3 inches. Probably won't win much in the air
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      Reply #674: Aug 31, 2017 10:33:20 pm
      They probably wouldn't raise that though and got cold feet cause they were trying to measure him on tv against someone else not on the same screen and in the report said probably won't win much in the air as he's only 3 inches tall

      :lmao:

      Edwards hired Riba as his personal assistant?!
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      Re: Thomas Lemar (Monaco)
      Reply #675: Aug 31, 2017 10:43:19 pm
      OK mate, you keep copy and pasting, and I'll keep swerving you.
      Well as a compromise, we can tell he is going to be a fantastic player.

      He would go straight into any first 11 in the premier league, 90m would be a bargain and FSG were chickens on this one. Now they are probably kicking themselves because after the France game they know they could have brought him for 90m and sold him for 180m.

      I only seen Lamar from YouTube and today's game, but it is probably more that I think Coutinho is slightly over rated and that I would have liked Lemar to replace him.

      Coutinho is good but lets face it, he has gotten really big for his boots.
      When we use Coutinho he is taking a midfield spot and he just doesn't do a lot defensively so to use him we should have a formation that either has a number 10 to accommodate him, or put Coutinho as a winger. I hate him as a playmaker, because a playmaker has to be able to support the defence off the ball better. He is just invisible off the ball most of the time. I would rather have Mane and Salah there right now as they are doing an alright job and I think 4-3-3 is a better formation for us. I don't think 4-2-1-3 with number 10
      or 4-1-2-3 with play maker is particularly a viable option with our current centre backs either.
      So does Coutinho get into our first 11? He is situational.
      From what I have seen, albeit not an awful lot, Lemar can defend better. He has operated as a central midfielder before too.
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      Reply #676: Aug 31, 2017 11:08:18 pm
      Okay, club pretty clearly were interested but welcome to your opinion.

      Club have not made a statement so you're wrong. You can't just say sh*t and expect not to be called out on it.

      Some journalists believe it... the same ones said VvD is about to sign and Keita was dead in the water. I don't believe them.
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      Reply #677: Aug 31, 2017 11:19:52 pm
      Club have not made a statement so you're wrong. You can't just say sh*t and expect not to be called out on it.

      Some journalists believe it... the same ones said VvD is about to sign and Keita was dead in the water. I don't believe them.

      Keita was dead in the water...I read it here...should have binned our interest and just moved on.

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      They don't have formal transfer requests in Germany and he's already (supposedly) told the club he wanted to move.

      Sooner everyone moves on from this, the easier it will be. He ain't coming and he never was.


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      Reply #678: Aug 31, 2017 11:54:32 pm
      Club have not made a statement so you're wrong. You can't just say sh*t and expect not to be called out on it.

      Some journalists believe it... the same ones said VvD is about to sign and Keita was dead in the water. I don't believe them.

      That's not true at all mate. You are reaching a bit to cover yourself I think. We were interested in him and did bid for him and the main sources were French correspondents that cover Ligue 1, not the usual Liverpool crowd (Pearce, Reddy, etc....)
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      Reply #679: Sep 01, 2017 03:06:17 am
      Willing got forgo reading the previous 18 pages I've missed since I've been in this thread, as we didn't F***ing sign him.

      To top it off, he scored a brace for the Frogs last night.

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      Reply #680: Sep 01, 2017 06:12:07 am
      At least if god forbid we'll sell Coutinho today, arrange his transfer so he'll be here in january.
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      Reply #681: Sep 01, 2017 06:43:46 am
      That's not true at all mate. You are reaching a bit to cover yourself I think. We were interested in him and did bid for him and the main sources were French correspondents that cover Ligue 1, not the usual Liverpool crowd (Pearce, Reddy, etc....)

      Exactly though. It's not Pearce etc covering it like people are saying it's journalists that nobody knows about and can even say are reliable or not.

      Either way, our interest cannot have been too high since it was news for less time than a football game
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      Reply #682: Sep 01, 2017 09:16:46 am
      I believe he wanted to come to us.

      We offered 75 ... they wanted 95 ... should have just paid it imo.

      He looked great last night and after a potentially storming season in france and a storming world cup monaco will have plenty more offers for him and 95m will be rejected out of hand.

      The market has changed for good now.

      I doubt this will happen now unless we spend the coutinho money on him next summer.
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      Reply #683: Sep 01, 2017 09:33:55 am
      I believe he wanted to come to us.

      We offered 75 ... they wanted 95 ... should have just paid it imo.

      He looked great last night and after a potentially storming season in france and a storming world cup monaco will have plenty more offers for him and 95m will be rejected out of hand.

      The market has changed for good now.

      I doubt this will happen now unless we spend the coutinho money on him next summer.

      I disagree, I think the market will settle back down again and that is probably the main reason why there wasn't much business last night. If this lad wants to come to us then we can get him in January or failing that next summer if/when we sell Coutinho.

      regarding VVD I genuinely don't get that other than to say that Southampton are acting like complete arseholes over this and I suspect it will bite them in the arse. You simply cannot reintegrate a player who has come out with statements highly critical of the club who also just happens to be the captain!! They really should have sold him, but I'm curious how they are going to juggle all their CB's now, didn't they buy 2 more over the summer, I mean how f**king many do they need??

      I reckon we'll get VVD in January, but I am very pissed off that we didn't have a contingency plan but perhaps Klopp and his team genuinely see our current defensive squad as acceptable.

      BTW before anyone says it the situation between VVD and Coutinho is not the same, Coutinho looks around him and sees a damned good team and he'll also be able to reach an agreement that he goes next summer, final point is that I think he still has an ok relationship to the club as opposed to VVD.
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      Reply #684: Sep 01, 2017 10:14:31 am
      Whether we were in for him or not, he looks a real prospect (probably already beyond just a prospect).  As an aside, how good did Mbappe look for France when he came on?  Reminds me of a young Ronaldo (the Brazilian one).  Seems years ahead of his actual age.  The French squad is ridiculously strong and Griezmann can't stay at Athletico much longer, surely?  He is absolute class and thank f### the mancs didn't get him!
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      Reply #685: Sep 01, 2017 11:08:27 am
      Exactly though. It's not Pearce etc covering it like people are saying it's journalists that nobody knows about and can even say are reliable or not
      Reddy ran with the story. http://www.talkaloadofbull.com/en/news/liverpool-look-to-deliver-further-blow-to-arsenal-with-a/7fbdw1r77sl515pev5q4kfhp8

      As did Pearce. http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/liverpool-increase-thomas-lemar-bid-13544182

      Quit being a F***ing eejit. 🙄
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      Reply #686: Sep 01, 2017 12:03:53 pm

      No doubt we were in for him.

      When the bid was rejected we backed out because we didn't want to pay the asking price.

      I don't mind debating whether or not we were right to back out at £92m because that is big money for a player who's position is not a top priority, but this debate about our interest is stupid.

      We'd have took him for 52 million but ran a mile at 92.
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      Reply #687: Sep 01, 2017 01:33:53 pm

      It's not a huge deal, it's just my opinion, those articles are thrown together. Not a quote from a source anywhere just saying 'Liverpool have done this' nothing from anyone at the club or at Monaco. Takes more than that to sway my opinion.
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      Reply #688: Sep 01, 2017 02:12:52 pm
      I disagree, I think the market will settle back down again and that is probably the main reason why there wasn't much business last night. If this lad wants to come to us then we can get him in January or failing that next summer if/when we sell Coutinho.
      This view is a little abstract in the sense that we are assuming Neymar deal had a domino affect to push all prices higher this season. In reality the Neymar deal was a symptom of football today. We couldn't get the deal done because football clubs are richer than they used to be, in VVD case they could refuses 70m because they get over double that from TV deals alone and they want to show their fans they have ambition. I feel sorry for him in a way because he will probably be 30 before Southampton let him go now. They had time to find a replacement but they didn't want to. They could have taken Sakho and pocketed 40m in a swap deal.. etc. Now TV deals are not going to suddenly stop, revenue is likely to increase not decrease, football clubs will continue to get richer so it will cost more to get players. I am not saying teams will be paying 200m much, but that will be the benchmark for a truly world class player now. Average players going for 40 and great players 70-80 with stunning players like Lemar costing 120-150.
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      Re: Thomas Lemar (Monaco)
      Reply #689: Sep 01, 2017 02:20:48 pm
      This view is a little abstract in the sense that we are assuming Neymar deal had a domino affect to push all prices higher this season. In reality the Neymar deal was a symptom of football today. We couldn't get the deal done because football clubs are richer than they used to be, in VVD case they could refuses 70m because they get over double that from TV deals alone and they want to show their fans they have ambition. I feel sorry for him in a way because he will probably be 30 before Southampton let him go now. They had time to find a replacement but they didn't want to. They could have taken Sakho and pocketed 40m in a swap deal.. etc. Now TV deals are not going to suddenly stop, revenue is likely to increase not decrease, football clubs will continue to get richer so it will cost more to get players. I am not saying teams will be paying 200m much, but that will be the benchmark for a truly world class player now. Average players going for 40 and great players 70-80 with stunning players like Lemar costing 120-150.


      In what universe can Southampton get £140 million in TV revenues but only with VVD in their team?? They are a tiny insignificant team with delusions of grandeur, an absolute c**t of a club and I hope they get relegated sooner rather than later.

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